Steroids for sale – the dangers TRT patients are facing to avoid high cost prescriptions

Below is a transcript of an interview between Victor Brock and EU News conducted on 3/15/2021

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TRT (Testosterone Replacement Therapy) has massively grown in popularity over the last six years giving many patients back their vigor, normalizing free testosterone levels, and giving patients a better life. However, with the astounding costs of doctor prescribed testosterone, TRT patients are now turning to steroids for sale sites to buy their testosterone to avoid high prescription costs.

But there are some really big issues to be aware of and here they are…

Long-time trainer and coach Victor Brock owner of  https://www.secretsofbodybuilding.org, an award winning educational blog specializing in bodybuilding, fitness, how to eat properly, and answering the most asked questions when it comes to the area of anabolic steroids and buying steroids online.

EU News– What the most common mistake when people buy steroids over the internet?

VB- It’s most always that they have no idea what they are buying and who they are buying it from.

EU- Have you seen health related issues from buying steroids online?

VB- Absolutely. The issue I talk about in my post “Where to buy steroids online” was horrific and cost me thousands of dollars of my own money (and I had insurance) to repair. And I was never the same after that, my body never fully recovered.

The issue is some of these vendors sell what we refer to as “dirty gear” or gear with bacteria or who knows what else because they are made in less than sanitary conditions.
I’ve never heard of someone having issues due to the compound, it’s been more to do with not getting what you paid for (A compound being substituted for another) or dirty gear.

EU – So is that common to receive steroids that aren’t what they say it is?

VB- It can be depending on where you get it. But it has been common in the steroid marketplace for some time. What you may find is that you order Testosterone Cypionate, but you may receive Deca –Nandrolone Decanoate. They label says it’s Test Cyp but it is Deca when you have it tested.

EU – So you send your steroids away to have them tested?

VB- What we recommend is home test kits. There are companies like Roidtest that sell home test kits for Anabolic steroids and Growth Hormone. You use a very small amount of the compound and add it to the test solution and it will turn the appropriate color for what it is. The kits come with a color chart so you can identify what it is. If there is no color change you probably have nothing there, or you bought what people refer to “fake gear”. We have a section on our website where we do Roidtests on camera from gear bought online. It’s a great way for people to get educated on how to do the test and identify what they bought.

Sending a compound away to a lab for testing will cost you around $250 per compound and it will give you great detail about what is in the vial. So if it says it’s dosed at 200mg per ml on the label, the lab report will give you that information, let you know if its accurately dosed or not, as well as detailed information on all other compounds used to make the final product.

The home test kits will not give you this detailed information, it will just let you know if you have the compound you paid for (Test Cyp comes back positive for Test Cyp).

EU – So you recommend home testing every single item?

VB- Not exactly. If you are new to a lab and say it’s a Lab called XYZ Labs and let’s say you bought 10 vials of Test Cyp for TRT purposes, I would test 2 to 3 vials at random and see what the tests say. If they are all positive then I wouldn’t test them all. Then I’d recommend keeping a journal on how you are feeling or reacting if any issues arise. For example you are getting very irritated at the injection site (this may be the oil they are using to suspend the compound) you may want to use another lab if that’s the issue. I also recommend getting blood work done regularly, this will also give you a very detailed look at how healthy you really are, (or aren’t), if what you are taking is giving you harmful side effects, and if the compound is working as it should.

So say your free test levels were at 30 and now with your TRT doses you are at 360, you can see that your compound is working as it should. A full panel will give you the appropriate data you need to know to adjust or continue your course. We talk about that on the blog.

EU – You mention TRT or Testosterone replacement therapy, do people often buy Testosterone through Steroid sites?

VB- More often than you would think. The most common prescribed injectable Testosterone is Test Cypionate with Testosterone Enanthate a close second. Bodybuilders have used these compounds as a staple or base for steroid cycles for decades, just in a higher doses, and some stay on all year at lower doses sometimes referred to as “cruising”. Most often they are running a therapy dose most in the range of 100 to 200mg per week, some much higher. So with people becoming more aware that Testosterone is used in bodybuilding, non-bodybuilders visit steroid sites to purchase testosterone because it’s often times much more affordable than buying it from a pharmacy by way of prescription.

EU – Isn’t testosterone covered by insurance?

VB- It depends what insurance you have and depending where you live in the world. For me I’m on TRT medically and my doctor prescribed test is very, very expensive. They will only give me 1ml at a time and its $120.00 dollars USD. I can get a 10ML vial of the same compound online for 35 to 45 dollars. That’s a massive difference.

EU – Aren’t most steroid websites just taking people’s money and ripping them off?  

VB- Like with anything some are, and some are completely legit. You really have to know what you are looking for. That’s another reason we put the blog together.

EU – What advice would you give someone asking about buying steroids over the internet?

VB- Know and understand the laws of your country. Have you heard of this company through a friend or someone you trust? Do some research on the website and see what you find.
There will always be bad reviews on anything you can think of. If you think that isn’t true, think of your favorite restaurant. One you have recommended to others. Now go online and read their reviews. You will find some bad reviews, some good. A long standing company is one thing I’d keep in mind. See how long they have been around and how many positive reviews they have vs. the bad ones. Also check and see if they have order minimums. I don’t do business with companies wanting a ton of money to be spent before they will send products.

EU – Is everything sent from overseas labs?

VB- I guess that depends on where you live in the world. I trained people in the US so when people were using steroids they were buying locally from people they knew or they were buying online. Sometimes that was domestic (inside the US) or internationally (sent from overseas). The overseas option was and still is the cheapest option. Expect to pay double when buying domestic.

The website will usually have a Domestic and international list.

Internationally, Most of the companies you buy from on the internet are drop shippers. They sell many different labs on their website. You the customer places the order, then the drop shipper then places their order with the lab they have a partnership with, the lab they have a partnership with sends you the products. If you are in the US it may take up to 30 days to receive your products.

Domestically, most companies have a middle man in the US that have products available to be sent within just a few days. They may use a re-shipper to hide the location of the middle man.

EU- It sounds like a lot of things to consider, what do you find is the most confusing thing for people who decide to order steroids over the internet?

VB- They just have no idea how it works.

Here are my top recommendations and things to keep in mind. This text is taken straight from our website https://www.secretsofbodybuilding.org/2017/04/06/steroids-for-sale/

Here are some Red Flags to look for when looking for Steroids for Sale.

    1. They have credit card transactions available on their site- This is a major NO WAY! I CANT STRESS THIS ENOUGH. WHEN BUYING STEROIDS FOR SALE, EVERYTHING IS – BITCOIN, WESTERN UNION, BANK WIRE, ETC
    2. They ask for personal information- The ONLY info you should give them EVER is the shipping address and the name you’re shipping to, THAT’S IT
    3. They ask for shipping insurance AFTER you’ve placed the order- If you ever send payment to a vendor and they ask you for additional Insurance payment for sending the package, you can say goodbye to the money you just sent. Its gone. You just got scammed. ANY LEGIT PROVIDER WILL ONLY CHARGE YOU FOR THE PRODUCT AND SHIPPING THAT’S IT. Any other fees you pay will be normal service charges that you pay for sending money via Bitcoin, Western Union ETC
    4. Large Minimum order totals- Especially with a company I don’t know, If they are asking for a large sum of money to be spent before you can place an order, I don’t even bother. Any good provider understands that people will be skeptical and want to try the products be before they make a large financial commitment

 EU – Do people have unreasonable expectations when they use steroids?

VB- Like you wouldn’t believe.
Before people even start training they go online and type in Steroids for sale.
It’s no different than seeing a 2min Abs commercial on TV. The TV model is shredded and works very hard for his or her body, and all the people watching the commercial hear is the 2min abs part.
Steroids aren’t magic. It’s that simple. They will help that’s all. It will not give someone genetics they aren’t born with, they just don’t. You have to be extremely dedicated and that comes with eating a very strict diet and training the right way. We have some really great programs and videos we have posted for free for people looking for a solid bodybuilding program.

EU – What advice would you give someone not wanting to use steroids but still would like to do bodybuilding?

    VB- Do mostly all the same things you would do if you were taking steroids.

– Train with intensity and to failure
– Follow a Diet
– Track your progress
– Drink plenty of water
– Get your sleep
– Eat at least 1 gram of clean protein per pound of bodyweight
– Don’t give your attention to negativity
– Get blood work done once a year

As far a supplements go

– Creatine was and still is one of the best over the counter compounds for bodybuilding, I highly recommend it. 5 grams a day should work just fine
– Take BCAAs. I highly recommend having a good BCAA to take regularly.
– One of my biggest recommendations is taking Lucine throughout the day. What I’ll do is make a gallon of water and add about 10 to 15 grams to it, then I’ll add unsweetened flavor like koolaid for example and just drink it throughout the day. You may be surprised how adding Lucine powder to your everyday supplement list adds muscle fast.
– Zinc, L Arginine, Magnesium, and Vitamin D3 are also in my top picks

EU – What are some health related issues you see when using steroids.

 VB- High blood pressure. Some anabolic steroids may give you high blood pressure. It’s important not to take it lightly thinking that you are just on a cycle and it will fix itself when you are done. Have a way to monitor your blood pressure and if you are going to take steroids for an extended period of time get some BP meds.

Another big issue is not getting blood work done. This is so important. There is absolutely no way to know if you are having issues unless you see your blood work. Outside of physical pain or obvious issues that can be seen with your eyes, you have no way of knowing if something is internally wrong unless you do a blood panel. If there is something wrong and levels are extremely high or at dangerous levels stop using immediately and work on a plan with your doctor. You have been given the greatest gift in the world, it was given to you free, your own life, and its way more valuable than some extra muscle.

EU – What would you recommend to someone interested in getting into bodybuilding?

VB- Information has come a long way since I was young. There is a ton of free information on the internet, some really bad, and some top shelf. I’d take a look on some of the better established forums, look on YouTube, a lot of ex and current pros have their own YouTube Channels that have free and high quality information. Blogs like ours that don’t encourage steroid use but give very detailed information about not just steroids for sale and using steroids, but bodybuilding programs that work, how to eat, and how to monitor your blood work and general health. Steroids are well known but a very small part of the equation. If everything isn’t lined up right it won’t make a difference how much you spend on steroids, you may end up hurting yourself and have no results at all. We always encourage non steroid training and learning how to build your body naturally. It gives you a much broader understanding of how to do it properly. There are plenty of non-steroid supplements that work very well.

EU – Since people seem to have the most interest in what supplements to take, if you could only recommend your top 2 supplements for bodybuilding, what would they be?

VB- Creatine and Lucine all the way.

EU – If someone wanted to get in touch with you, do you still offer advice and coaching?

VB- I don’t coach or train people anymore however I will answer all emails that come to the blog.

Any and all questions are accepted. If I can help I will, if not Ill refer them to someone else.
If I didn’t get back to you I must have missed it somehow, please resend the email.
When we started the blog it was simply a guide I wish I had had when I started bodybuilding so I could understand the ins and outs better. I have had so many positive messages I can’t even count them all, so I think it has done what we wanted it to do.

EU – So your blog is the best way to contact you then?

VB- I don’t do many forums anymore so yes. It’s just https://www.secretsofbodybuilding.org/ Go to the contact page and I’ll try to help if I can.

EU – Thank you for this interview, I appreciate your time today

VB- Anytime and thanks for having me